Admiral Toddman

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:49 am

Re-watching "The Die Is Cast", I noticed something odd.

Toddman is supposed to be a Vice-Admiral, but he wears a gold uniform. Can anyone else think of an instance where an Admiral wasn't wearing red?

Lazar · Post by **Lazar** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:57 am

Oddly they seemed to switch the use of gold and red between TOS and TNG.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:10 am

Lazar wrote:Oddly they seemed to switch the use of gold and red between TOS and TNG.

Yeah, but this is season 3 of DS9; you'd think that kind of discrepancy wouldn't come up.

katefan · Post by **katefan** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:21 am

Well, Scotty was an "captain of engineering" and McCoy was an admiral in Encounter at Farpoint. Perhaps it is possible for non-command officers to attain the rank of admiral?

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:39 am

katefan wrote:Well, Scotty was an "captain of engineering" and McCoy was an admiral in Encounter at Farpoint. Perhaps it is possible for non-command officers to attain the rank of admiral?

Thank you. Admiral McCoy was wearing blue in "Encounter At Farpoint". So, that's two. Any others people can remember?

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:27 pm

That's all I can remember. Maybe there are differences between different sectors in the UFP? For example, maybe some far-flung region of the UFP still uses gold shirts for command positions.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:52 pm

Rochey wrote:That's all I can remember. Maybe there are differences between different sectors in the UFP? For example, maybe some far-flung region of the UFP still uses gold shirts for command positions.

I'm thinking it may actually be related to what branch they're with. Toddman was with Starfleet Security, we know McCoy is in Medical...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:55 pm

Aye, that's possible. Though I find it hard to believe a doctor becoming an admiral. Wouldn't that imply he commanded a ship at some point?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 12:58 pm

Rochey wrote:Aye, that's possible. Though I find it hard to believe a doctor becoming an admiral. Wouldn't that imply he commanded a ship at some point?

No, you can be a Flag officer without ever commanding a unit in the field.

Edit: General Eisenhower for example was a logistics officer who never held a field command yet commanded the entire invasion of Western Europe.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:00 pm

Oh, okay then.

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:02 pm

Have I actually stumbled across something that makes sense about Starfleet?

Post by **Graham Kennedy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:34 pm

Besides, Crusher commanded a medical ship in All Good Things. So a Doctor with a captaincy isn't unknown.

Deepcrush · Post by **Deepcrush** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:13 pm

McCoy was an Admiral and I never heard of him having a command.

Lazar · Post by **Lazar** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:38 pm

Tsukiyumi wrote:I'm thinking it may actually be related to what branch they're with. Toddman was with Starfleet Security, we know McCoy is in Medical...

Yes, I think that's what it is.

thelordharry · Post by **thelordharry** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:17 pm

Deepcrush wrote:McCoy was an Admiral and I never heard of him having a command.

Damn it Deep, I'm an admiral, not a captain!

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