Libya - Gaddafi refuses to quit amid protests

[Griffin]

Defiant Gaddafi refuses to quit amid Libya protests

Libyan leader Col Muammar Gaddafi has refused to stand down amid widespread anti-government protests which he said had tarnished the image of the country.

In his first major speech since unrest began, Col Gaddafi said the whole world looked up to Libya and that the protesters were "serving the devil".

He said he would not leave the country and would "die a martyr".

Rights groups say nearly 300 have been killed in violence since the protest began.

A defiant and angry Col Gaddafi said that he had brought glory to Libya. As he had no official position in Libya from which to resign, he would remain the head of the revolution, he said.

He blamed the unrest on "cowards and traitors" who were seeking to portray Libya as a place of chaos and to "humiliate" Libyans.

The protesters had been given drink and drugs, he said.

He called on "those who love Muammar Gaddafi" to come on to the streets in support of him, telling them not to be afraid of the "gangs".

"Come out of your homes, attack them in their dens. Withdraw your children from the streets. They are drugging your children, they are making your children drunk and sending them to hell," he said.

He added: "If matters require, we will use force, according to international law and the Libyan constitution."

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[Mikey]

That's right, it's the protesters who are giving Libya and the Qaddafi regime a bad name.

[Reliant121]

"We will use force, according to international law" <- Law that allows someone to order the murder of people who happen to simply disagree with him/

Yup, legitimate claim there.

[Captain Seafort]

And in other news, water is wet.

Seriously, who expected anything else? Gaddaffi, unlike Mubarak, has never had the slightest interest in pretending to lead a democratic government, and is, to give him the benefit of the doubt, somewhat eccentric. This reaction, both physically and rhetorically, is par for the course.

[Lighthawk]

Col Gaddafi said the whole world looked up to Libya

[Captain Seafort]

Col Gaddafi said the whole world looked up to Libya

He's probably right.

Exactly.

[Tyyr]

It'll be interesting to see what happens as the military gets into it. We've already seen two of their fighter pilots defect.

[Sionnach Glic]

Latest news is that Gaddafi has ordered the airforce to bomb oil fields in Libya. Some pilots have refused.

To be honest it's starting to look less and less likely that Gaddafi is going to be able to stay in power. From what I've heard he's been facing defections from within his own government, the military is increasingly divided amongst itself, and a number of towns and cities are in the hands of the rebels.

It'll be very interesting to see what happens if Gaddafi does go down. He's stayed in power longer than any other dictator. His defeat might just spur the people of some other neighbouring countries (Iran being the most prominant one) to start their own uprisings.

If nothing else, this is certainly shaping up to be an interesting year for the Middle East and North Africa.

[Griffin]

If nothing else, this is certainly shaping up to be an interesting year for the Middle East and North Africa.

Indeed, its nice to see that people power still works.

[Captain Seafort]

Indeed, its nice to see that people power still works.

I'll wait until the end of the year before I start counting chickens. The last time people power "worked" in the Middle East the result was Hamas' election in the Palestinian territories.

[Teaos]

I'm thinking about the Iran uprising and the way that ended. At most I think they will only swap one tyrant for another. With out serious aid from the west they cant hope for fair and even goverment.

[Captain Seafort]

I'm thinking about the Iran uprising and the way that ended. At most I think they will only swap one tyrant for another. With out serious aid from the west they cant hope for fair and even goverment.

They'd be a damn sight better off keeping Gaddaffi (or Mubarak, if Egypt goes downhill). Better a secular tyrant than an Islamist one.

[Teaos]

Better the Devil you know...

[Tsukiyumi]

They'd be a damn sight better off keeping Gaddaffi (or Mubarak, if Egypt goes downhill). Better a secular tyrant than an Islamist one.

Agreed.

[Lighthawk]

Libyan city dubbed 'Free Benghazi' as anti-Gaddafi troops take control

• Guardian reporter enters country's second city
• Local doctors put massacre death toll at 230
• Rebel officers talk of army revolt against mercenaries
Libya's second city, Benghazi, appears to have fallen beyond the control of Muammar Gaddafi, with the local military defying his regime and monarchy-era flags flying from government buildings.

As the first foreign news organisation to report from so-called Free Benghazi, the Guardian witnessed defecting troops pouring into the courtyard of a ransacked police station carrying tonnes of weaponry and ammunition looted from a military armoury to stop it being seized by forces loyal to the Libyan dictator.

Soldiers brought rockets and heavy weapons which had been used in an assault on citizens in central Benghazi on Saturday as Gaddafi tried to keep control of the city. Doctors in Benghazi said that at least 230 people were killed, with a further 30 critically injured.

There was also the clearest confirmation yet that Gaddafi's regime used outside mercenaries to try to suppress the rebellion. Adjoining the police station a large crowd gathered in another courtyard. Upstairs, the Guardian saw a number of mercenaries, allegedly flown in the previous week, being interrogated by lawyers and army officials.

An air force officer, Major Rajib Faytouni, said he personally witnessed up to 4,000 mercenaries arrive on Libyan transport planes over a period of three days starting from 14 February. He said: "That's why we turned against the government. That and the fact there was an order to use planes to attack the people."

Numerous witnesses in Benghazi have said that while artillery was used against citizens, air force planes did not fire on them here. They did, however, according to Faytouni, drop two bombs inside the Rajma military base to stop weapons falling into the hands of anti-government forces.

"The two colonels who defected in MiGs had refused orders to bomb the people," he said, referring to a pair of air force officers who fled to Malta in their jets on Monday. He added: "There were also two helicopters that flew to Tunis."

All around Benghazi there were indications that Gaddafi has lost control of the city. The military is no longer operating checkpoints, which are now manned only by a handful of traffic police. Every physical sign of the dictator has been taken down or burned. While there has been no violence in the past two days, angry demonstrators are driving through city firing Kalashnikov rifles into the air and demanding Gaddafi cede control and leave the country.

The former Libyan flag, dating from the reign of the monarch ousted by Gaddafi, King Idris, is flying above ransacked government buildings on the waterfront. Off the coast, several passenger ferries wait in storm-tossed seas to pick up foreign nationals being evacuated. The UK government has announced that a Royal Navy warship, HMS Cumberland, will be moved to wait off the Libyan coast, but no military ships could be seen.

Military checkpoints between Benghazi and Egypt to the east are now manned only by armed militias.

Earlier the UN security council passed a unanimous statement calling for an immediate end to the violence in Libya and demanding that Gaddafi live up to his responsibilities to protect his own people.

The 15 council members said they condemned the violence and repression of peaceful demonstrators after the Libyan dictator issued his defiance of the international community on Tuesday.

The statement called for the immediate lifting of restrictions on all forms of the media and for the safety of foreign nationals to be ensured.

Libya's deputy ambassador to the UN, Ibrahim al-Dabashi, who has joined a number of Libyan diplomats in defecting from the Gaddafi regime, said the security council's position did not go far enough. "It is not strong enough but any message to the Libyan government at this stage is good."

Dabashi said he had received reports that "genocide" had begun in the west of the country, with ground attacks occurring from Libyan forces working alongside "mercenaries from many African countries".

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