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Mark VIII - that's the same as VII but with the shell-trap around the neck, right? I might go with that, I was just thinking that as a second-founding chapter, the Angels Sanguine might not have them yet. And, In fact (weird, I know but it's canon) Ashok doesn't wear a psychic hood... you'll see in the RP.

Deepcrush wrote:SSM, does she operate from inside that machine or is it independent?

Yeah, she pilots the Guren.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:I'd go with the second option.

OK, here goes, for my second character...

A Craftworld Eldar by the name of Arawden Aghenfilir. Arawden is a ranger from the Craftworld Iyanden who happened to be following the same lead as Ashok, tracking down a rumored splinter population of Tyranids. He is proud, as all Eldar, and retains his anger and outrage over the near-destruction of Iyanden. He also displays typical Craftworld Eldar disdain for any species which isn't Eldar, but is somewhat more cosmopolitan than most due to his experience as a ranger among the Exodites and non-Eldar species. Arawden is equipped with a ranger long rifle, a shuriken pistol, mesh armor, and a cameleoline cloak.

Mikey wrote:Mark VIII - that's the same as VII but with the shell-trap around the neck, right? I might go with that, I was just thinking that as a second-founding chapter, the Angels Sanguine might not have them yet. And, In fact (weird, I know but it's canon) Ashok doesn't wear a psychic hood... you'll see in the RP.

Armor value in table top is the same but.......

It is in fluff a far better design. Slightly heavier with the Neck guard, improved gauntlets and power supply. It offers similar strength as the Terminator Armor but just not as tough on the defense.

Hmmm... I thought it was the same as VII, jsut with the neck guard to avoid directing rounds into the gorget. I think I'll just leave it for RP and canon "realism" reasons.

Well, for table top it is the same. The difference is fluff. The armor overall is about the same. The neck gaurd is an add on with a new helm. The gauntlets are just switched out. The power core is just of better design. The only major change is the fiber-muscles which are more tightly packed allowing for more of them.

Going on Deep's advice, I have selected my second character.

Beast Wars Rhinox

Rhinox is extremely strong and very intelligent. Smarter than Primal, but possibly not as strong. Sorta... philosophical, but not above kicking can and taking datatrax. He's armed with twin chainguns, known as the 'chainguns of doom'.

I think he was in fact STRONGER then Primal. He just never liked the idea of being incharge. Also, Primal was a solid leader and much better armed.

If it's OK, Monroe, wanna paste my secondary char into the "Cast" thread?

So are you going with the Mark-VII or Mark-VIII?

I think the VII. Ashok doesn't wear a helmet, and the older style is more in keeping with a Second Founding chapter, I think.

Your call. Its all opinion anyways.

All characters are updated now. Slept in some reason I didnt get to them earlier

I just thought of a great third character!!! One that would be great for pissing off the Astartes!

Commander Brightsword of the Tau Empire... Not the Tau himself, but the Emperor's Champion of the Black Templars who killed him and then took his place! Hows that for a bitchkick!

I guess it's good to have a backup.

I'm not killing off Bauer or Roland any time soon, of course, so I don't need one.