The Xindi Paradox

[Mark]

Ok....the Xindi storyline always confused me. In the origianal timeline, Earth WASN'T attacked by the Xindi right? The sphere builders went back in time to get the Xindi to destroy humanity, guaranteeing their victory later. So, after Archer and Danials had they're little chat and Danials said the timeline was restoring itself, should the all the the events from Season 3 have been removed from the timeline? After all, if the Xindi hadn't attacked Earth, then Enterprise would have never been sent into the expanse...yada, yada, yada. Am I right, or am I missing someting?

[Blackstar the Chakat]

I think when the timeline was being fixed, from the damage done by the alien Nazis, not the entire timeline in general.

[KuvahMagh]

I think when the timeline was being fixed, from the damage done by the alien Nazis, not the entire timeline in general.

I don't think so, he specifically says the Temporal Cold War is over so I'd say everything was fixed... now if only we could write S 1 & 2 out... now then it would have been a perfect ep...

[Blackstar the Chakat]

I think when the timeline was being fixed, from the damage done by the alien Nazis, not the entire timeline in general.

I don't think so, he specifically says the Temporal Cold War is over so I'd say everything was fixed... now if only we could write S 1 & 2 out... now then it would have been a perfect ep...

So wipe out the first three seasons? That would suck. I mean seasons one and two weren't anything special but they were better then a lot of older trek. And season three was just outright awesome.

[Mikey]

I just chalk it up to the eps in question having shown the events that occurred before the timeline was repaired.

[KuvahMagh]

I just chalk it up to the eps in question having shown the events that occurred before the timeline was repaired.

Yeah but the whole reason they went into the Expanse for S3 was due to the Temporal Cold War and the Sphere Builders so if that is reset they wouldn't have gone in... of course then they wouldn't have defeated the space nazis, destroyed their machine and reset the timeline...

[Mark]

So, in the original time line we saw depicted in TOS (at least i'm guessing that was the original timeline) the Expanse what still there, reletively close to Earth and Vulcan? Again, Enterprise writers forgetting that they are writing in an already established universe, not making up there own.

And don't even get me started on space nazis

[KuvahMagh]

So, in the original time line we saw depicted in TOS (at least i'm guessing that was the original timeline) the Expanse what still there, reletively close to Earth and Vulcan? Again, Enterprise writers forgetting that they are writing in an already established universe, not making up there own.

And don't even get me started on space nazis

I think that some part of that resetting rest all of S1-3, I mean think about those seasons, the Ferengi... the Borg... Romulans with Cloaks and Cloaking Mines... Evil Vulcans... not to mention the other not so prominent but still present continuity mistakes... now if only we could change the design of the ship...

[Mark]

So, in the original time line we saw depicted in TOS (at least i'm guessing that was the original timeline) the Expanse what still there, reletively close to Earth and Vulcan? Again, Enterprise writers forgetting that they are writing in an already established universe, not making up there own.

And don't even get me started on space nazis

I think that some part of that resetting rest all of S1-3, I mean think about those seasons, the Ferengi... the Borg... Romulans with Cloaks and Cloaking Mines... Evil Vulcans... not to mention the other not so prominent but still present continuity mistakes... now if only we could change the design of the ship...

One could only hope so......until the Romulans came up the holo disguise ship.

:::swallowing four motrin:::

[KuvahMagh]

So, in the original time line we saw depicted in TOS (at least i'm guessing that was the original timeline) the Expanse what still there, reletively close to Earth and Vulcan? Again, Enterprise writers forgetting that they are writing in an already established universe, not making up there own.

And don't even get me started on space nazis

I think that some part of that resetting rest all of S1-3, I mean think about those seasons, the Ferengi... the Borg... Romulans with Cloaks and Cloaking Mines... Evil Vulcans... not to mention the other not so prominent but still present continuity mistakes... now if only we could change the design of the ship...

One could only hope so......until the Romulans came up the holo disguise ship.

:::swallowing four motrin:::

Crap... That was bad... especially the remote ability... They shouldn't even be able to communicate in Real Time Audio over those distances yet they had real time control of this thing... which as you mentioned could use Holographic Imaging so sophisticated that it wouldn't be in use 300 years later...

[katefan]

I think when the timeline was being fixed, from the damage done by the alien Nazis, not the entire timeline in general.

I don't think so, he specifically says the Temporal Cold War is over so I'd say everything was fixed... now if only we could write S 1 & 2 out... now then it would have been a perfect ep...

So wipe out the first three seasons? That would suck. I mean seasons one and two weren't anything special but they were better then a lot of older trek. And season three was just outright awesome.

That is highly debateable. TOS in general was much better than Enterprise, and despite seasons one and two of TNG and seasons one and two of DS9, both those shows were far superior. Even Voyager had much better episodes in general than Enterprise.

And TOS, TNG and DS9 also had far more interesting and likeable characters than Enterprise as well.

So if the entire season got wiped out not many people would shed any tears. At least TNG and DS9 got decent finale episodes, too.

[Captain Seafort]

So wipe out the first three seasons? That would suck. I mean seasons one and two weren't anything special but they were better then a lot of older trek. And season three was just outright awesome.

That is highly debateable. TOS in general was much better than Enterprise, and despite seasons one and two of TNG and seasons one and two of DS9, both those shows were far superior. Even Voyager had much better episodes in general than Enterprise.

And TOS, TNG and DS9 also had far more interesting and likeable characters than Enterprise as well.

So if the entire season got wiped out not many people would shed any tears. At least TNG and DS9 got decent finale episodes, too.

Don't bother trying to point out the obvious - it's only Blackstar. He's been trying to convince people of Enterprise's superiority for months, we've been trying to cure him. No success on either side.

[Reliant121]

To be honest, i never really got the Xindi, Nakul temporal bull.

[Teaos]

The whole idea of the Xindi annoyed me. Its like they finall realised they needed to do something different but went to far.

[Sionnach Glic]

Agreed. It's just way too implausable that we never heard about them at all in any other Trek series. Particularly with the whole, you know, trying to blow up Earth thing.