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So now it's not "Interfering with a crime is illegal in Britain" but rather people don't want to?

Of course, this isn't true either.
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Or at least as true as anywhere else. I wouldnt step into a macheti attack, I would call for help and help after the fact, but fuck stepping into that.
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While I don't expect everyone to be as able with blades as myself. Were I in a lazy mood, I'd be more then happy to just shoot the guy and call it a day.
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Deepcrush wrote:While I don't expect everyone to be as able with blades as myself. Were I in a lazy mood, I'd be more then happy to just shoot the guy and call it a day.
Not without a gun you wouldn't. If you where here you wouldn't be allowed a gun.
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Well, all's the more reason I wouldn't live there. As I said, I'm not above killing with my hands if I have too but I sometimes feel lazy and a backup is a nice option to have.
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Since they weren't actually threatening any of the bystanders, no bystander had a reason to kill them.
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They were butchering a man in the streets, that's as good a reason as you can get.
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During the butchering, sure. But whilst everyone was standing around waiting for the cops there was no butchering going on and no reason to kill them.
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That only works if there were NO bystanders during the commission of the crime. Otherwise, it's just an SEP excuse for doing nothing.
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GrahamKennedy wrote:During the butchering, sure. But whilst everyone was standing around waiting for the cops there was no butchering going on and no reason to kill them.
So then why didn't they do it while it was happening?
Mikey wrote:That only works if there were NO bystanders during the commission of the crime. Otherwise, it's just an SEP excuse for doing nothing.
Simple cowardice, even for them this is a rather pathetic response.
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Deepcrush wrote:So then why didn't they do it while it was happening?
Because taking on a bloke armed with a knife and clearly mentally unstable is potentially quite dangerous. Most people have a strong instinct for self-preservation, and are therefore reluctant to dive into such situations. There's also the fact that the initial natural human reaction to sudden violence in the absence of an imminent, direct, and identifiable threat is to freeze, and likely be unable to come up with solutions that might seem obvious to people presented with the dry facts after the event. It is therefore abnormal for people to dive into such situations to aid others, which is why those who do frequently receive the GC or GM.

Speaking of which, TR-116 time. Does the US have an equivalent to the GC?
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Captain Seafort wrote:Because taking on a bloke armed with a knife and clearly mentally unstable is potentially quite dangerous. Most people have a strong instinct for self-preservation, and are therefore reluctant to dive into such situations. There's also the fact that the initial natural human reaction to sudden violence in the absence of an imminent, direct, and identifiable threat is to freeze, and likely be unable to come up with solutions that might seem obvious to people presented with the dry facts after the event. It is therefore abnormal for people to dive into such situations to aid others, which is why those who do frequently receive the GC or GM.
Where I live, if you see someone trying or in the process of killing someone. Our natural reaction is to kill them before they succeed or before they can hurt anyone else.
Captain Seafort wrote:Speaking of which, TR-116 time. Does the US have an equivalent to the GC?
Don't know what those are.
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Deepcrush wrote:Don't know what those are.
The George Cross. It's the UK's highest award for gallantry open to civilians, or for the armed forces for acts not in the face of the enemy.
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Oh, we have things similar. We have National awards as well as some state, county and city specific.

We have locally the Merit of the Commonwealth and the national equal is the Citizens Valor Award.
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I'm no vigilante, but Deep's got the right of this. Where I'm from, a "bloke's" natural reaction to seeing someone being victimized is to do one's best to kick the ever-loving shit out of the victimizer. ESPECIALLY if the victimizer is only armed with a kitchen utensil.
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